yeah, i need the one that shows how the old wt lit says the same basic teaching as the new generation understanding.....so not new light but finally just recycled crap...........oompa.
i will try to find it.
Watchtower Comments 4.14.08 The Generation
"What we will find is that this is not a new understanding, but a return to older beliefs."
Good luck. I don't know your situation, but it's often better to frame information as a question. E.g. 'I'm having trouble understanding/believing this because of this. Can you explain?' It can seem less of an attack and be less likely to trigger the mind control defenses.
when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.
i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.
i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?
Pretty amazing visions I tell you.
Well, it would be interesting to hear some. Are they like Revelation? Any new scroll-openings?
Preserve yourself alive until Jesus Christ arrives in all of his glory and his angel with him.Count your blessings and pray for those that are having to endure the great tribulation in the Middle East. That is where there are earth quakes, food shortages, famines, pestilences, floods, and wars where people are killing one another. Weap along with those in the heavens. myself, and those whose hearts are tormented from all of the pain and suffering they are witness to. Imagine their pain and pray to your God to hurry please and bring the suffering to an end. It is written, there will be a hurrying of it.
That's it? No indoctrination of others? No trying to prove that a collection of stories and contradictory statements is divinely inspired? No address to which to send a cheque?
I'm almost disappointed.
when i first attended the congregation of jehovahs witnesses i never even thought about whom or what was the faithful and discreet slave.
i do not believe that this information is ever taught to the public directly.
i think you have to be baptised or start attending the same meetings as those that are baptised.. anyway what made all of you adapt the teaching of the faithful and discreet slave (class or whatever)?
jwblog,
You've convinced me. So what do I do now?
(I can't believe I missed that some were fulfilled invisibly in heaven - there I was looking in completely the wrong place!)
i'm gerlinde from germany.
i never was a jw, but i was lds.
now i' m a witch and i write short stories like this one:.
Welcome Lone Ranger!
the guy was sent out of iraq for shooting at the quran,....good idea!
"the u.s. military said sunday that it had disciplined the sniper and removed him from iraq after he was found to have used islam's holy book for target practice may 9 in a predominantly sunni area west of baghdad.
the book was found two days later by iraqis on a firing range in radwaniyah with 14 bullet holes in it and graffiti written on its pages, tribal leaders said.".
So they're there to shoot people, but aren't allowed to shoot books. Don't you just love religion?
i'm interested in trying my hand at a youtube video.
i'd like to do a piece giving evidence that the wt actually breaks up families since, to my mind, this is one of their worst real offenses.
the outline will go something like this:.
Hi Brian, all the best with your video. I, too, very much enjoyed your other videos.
5. JWs are taught that people who leave the organization - for whatever reason - must be shunned.
Is that actually the case? I know some/many have that experience, but I'm also sure plenty walk away without being disfellowshipped (like me and others I know). Avoided as "close association" is an official teaching on this, yes - but shunned? Perhaps you could state that this is the experience many have?
I'm not justifying shunning or trying to excuse the disgusting behaviour of the cult in any way; just wondered about this point.
could they have learned something from lurking on jwd and decided to dismantle little by little?
i mean, no bookstudy, possibly less hours for regular pioneers and now the possibility of doing away with the co...sure sounds like a fade to me... are they hoping the r&f won't notice???.
changeling :).
It did cross my mind, but I would say no if pushed for an answer. Guess an organisation-wide "fading" could make certain people a lot of money? I don't see it happening anytime soon, though.
while this may be construed as a rebuttal to nvr's thread re: why i post about atheism, that is not my intent.. it is my intent, however, to show how i developed a belief in and love for the god of the bible.. my paternal grandfather, who died before i was born, was a baptist preacher, so you could say i cut my teeth on the bible.
i loved having it read to me, and once i learned how, reading it for myself.
i'm convinced that spirituality runs deep in my blood.. i've always had such a strong sense of right and wrong that injustices make me literally sick.
It is a quick and enjoyable (IMO) read that attempts to show how the Bible has been, for want of a better term, mauled to suit the purposes of many a group.
Yet, out of all that has transpired, the Light continues to shine in the darkness.
You can pick what you want and discard the rest - as I did with the article on confirmation bias.
So the answer to my question "What has that to do with confirmation bias and your choice to take the fact that we all die as evidence of God and the bible's inspiration?" is 'nothing'. I didn't pick what I wanted and discard the rest.
So back to the death-proves-God's-threat-was-real argument. Maybe the story in Genesis is just a people's attempt to explain the situation in which they find themselves, much like it explains why snakes don't have legs. (God cursed it for being naughty.)
chickpea:
i have oft thought myself to be a grammar whore, but maybe i am just a snob
Both of your i's need capitalisation and you are missing a full stop. (That's capitalization and a full point to you yanks.)
hi all.. i am new to the board.
my story is reminiscent of just about everyone else on the board.
here is a quick run down.. .
Hi Anthony, Welcome to the forum, from one of those evil atheists. ;) Keep true to yourself - the rest will come I guess.
